What is a ‘batch’ for you?

Old Goat

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What do you guys consider a batch when making juice? A bottle, 10, more? How long is the process for you…hours?

Just curious to hear what people say and possibly learn other processes. I’m sure we all settle into how we do it…but is there anything in your process that stands out as perfect (for you) or something you’d prefer to change?
 
Mike Dearborn said:
What do you guys consider a batch when making juice?
I would consider a batch to be at least 2.

When I mix, I generally make 10 bottles. I'm still new, so I make only 10 ml not 100 ml.

10 bottles, takes me 2 to 3 hours to make. Mostly getting out different flavors for the next juice and putting the old ones back.

I think my process is good, but I have yet to make a decent product. ALWAY too harsh.

Here's my process. I have a word document to track my juices. Say the 1st juice is Almond joy. So in the doc I enter:

Date: When ever. Seeing as I like my sweets, I let them steep for 6 to 12 weeks.

1. Almond joy. 1.75% Nic, 70/30 VG/PG.
2. Smores. 3%, "" "".
3. Whoppers. 1.75% "" "".
4. Caramel, butterscotch vanilla ice cream 2.25% "" "".

"Sup wit da "" ""? I'm American. Read that lazy. Rather than type out 3% Nic, 70/30 VG/PG for every bottle, I put that for the 1st one only.

If my next batch is 50/50 VG/PG for a pod then I enter that for the 1st juice only. Then, "" "".

Then I grab a magic marker and put the corresponding number on the bottle.

Note that while I use to make a 10 ml bottle I now tell the calculator to make 8. I used to make 10 ml, but I always used too much Nic. and tossed the bottle. Couldn't control the volume well enough. Then, after my 1,348.3rd bottle I had an epiphany. I said to myself, in the immortal words of my good friend Walter Dunham, "Dumb-ass!"

Tell the calc to make 8 ml so that when I add too much Nic I go to the calc to adjust the amount of Nic so of course it adjusts everything else. By the time I got to the 2000th bottle I had good control over the volume of the Nic.

My process:

Scale right in front of me, empty bottles behind the scale. Nic, VG/PG and flavors to the left of the scale. I start with the Nic, move it to the right of the scale, then the VG, then PG, then the flavors moving them to the right of the scale as I use them. Else I guarantee I'll forget which flavor I used or haven't used.

Shake 'em as best I can, (Which aint easy anymore) put them in a cabinet, close the door and forget to shake them for a few days. JUST the other day, I had another epiphany and added an event to my calendar to remind me to shake every day at noon.

At least twice a week, the alarm goes off, I dismiss it thinking I'll do it as soon as I'm done with whatever I'm doing... And promptly forget.

[smention u=59]Old Goat[/smention] Look at all those vowels (U's) I saved myself from typing. 'Merica!
 
Honestly, a batch is whatever works for your workflow and your storage. For me, I usually mix enough to fill 5–10 bottles of the same recipe, depending on the flavor and how steep-sensitive it is. Fruit-forward, shake-and-vape stuff? Smaller batches are fine — a few bottles at a time. Custards, creams, and dessert-heavy mixes that take months to smooth out? I’ll go bigger, maybe a dozen bottles, so I can rotate and taste-test over time.

The process itself? If I’m just whipping up a recipe I’ve done before, 30–45 minutes tops. If I’m developing something new, it’s more like an afternoon of weighing, mixing, tasting, adjusting, and cleaning up. The cleanup is as much part of the process as the mixing — can’t taste properly with sticky hands or leftover flavors lurking in the equipment.

What stands out for me is organization: pre-label bottles, pre-weigh flavors, and always keep a little notebook or digital log of %s and steep times. Makes life easier, especially when juggling multiple recipes.

The thing I’d change? I’d love a one-person automated filling station — one that handles all my small bottles so I don’t have to hand-pour 20–30 mL at a time. Until then, patience, clean wicks, and coffee are your friends.

Bottom line: there’s no “perfect” batch size — it’s about what fits your style, storage, and patience level. Start small, learn the flavors, and scale up once you know it works.
 
A batch for me depends on what I am keen to experiment with.

I always try new recipes and play around with new combinations. I have only been mixing for a few years and I am still working towards having a recipe that I can label as an all day vape.

Recently I mixed up a batch of about 7 30ml bottles and 1 100ml. The 30ml bottles where all tobacco recipes that I modified for the flavouring I had available at the time. The 100ml was for a NET extract that I made.
All of the above are mtl mixes at 60/40.

It took me about an hour to mix all of the above.

I use the "Vape Tool" app for my mixing and for my coil building as well. Very useful app and its available on Playstore.

I have my scale set in front of me with the flavors lined up. I add PG first, then flavoring, then VG and lastly the nic.
If I am mixing tobacco juices I leave the nic out and only add it around 2 weeks before the steep time is up.
I steep tobacco mixes for 12 weeks.
Every bottle is labeled with a date when it was mixed and when the steep time will be completed. A note is added on the label that I still need to add some nic.

For direct lung mixes I usually go for something fruity and for those I mix everything at the same time and only steep for about 3 days.
A batch of direct lung for me is normally 2x 100ml bottles each with a different recipe.

The direct lung batch is about a 20min session.
 
Recurve42 said:
The 100ml was for a NET extract that I made.
All of the above are mtl mixes at 60/40.

What is a NET extract? You use a mod for 60/40 I trust? Less of a cloud chaser and more of the flavor chaser. I actually like that idea!

And welcome back, and thanks for dropping in.

Recurve42 said:
"I have my scale set in front of me with the flavors lined up. I add PG first, then flavoring, then VG and lastly the nic.

If I am mixing tobacco juices I leave the nic out and only add it around 2 weeks before the steep time is up.

I steep tobacco mixes for 12 weeks."
I’m into deserts, so fruity shake-n-vape is out for me. Can’t imagine how tobacco would be better than a three musketeer. Like [smention u=94]Saulgoodman[/smention] says, juices are always too harsh. Mine too!

[smention u=65]SessionDrummer[/smention] went to the trouble of making some candies and cakes for me, and when I tried some that too was too harsh, AND he made them at a VG/PG ration of 80/20 figuring maybe I have a problem with PG. They’re also nic free, just in case.

Then [smention u=59]Old Goat[/smention] suggested that after smoking 10 (or more) swisher Sweets/day my lungs are rebelling. 1 swisher sweet is equal to 10 smokes! That what, 5 packs a day?!

So, Monday I slapped 2 - 21mg nic patches on and have done so all week. I’m still craving nic. I’m sucking on a handful of sugar free suckers for some kind of hand to mouth action, but I need to feel my lungs expand, ‘ya know? Hopefully after a few weeks of suckers, my lungs will have healed enough to vape. I REALLY wanna vape! The taste of a whopper is just too good!
 
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